Loura and Stephen will discuss their takeaways from the prior episode with Tracey Ivanyshyn.
They will talk about the things they’ve implemented, the ones they want to try out and how Tracey’s insights are helping them embrace the exciting unknown.
Stephen Christopher 0:06
All right hey what’s going on Stephen Christopher here with my awesome friend and co host Laura Sanchez and today we are doing a connect the dots episode from the interview that we did with Tracy. I’ve admission a couple days ago, where we’re going to pull out some of the great things that we learned some of the things that we may have already implemented, and just chat about this episode a little bit and what we can pull from this, Laura, how’s it going?
Loura Sanchez 0:57
Good. How are you this morning I see you’re back in the mouth. Who’s
Stephen Christopher 1:00
doing great. Yeah, back in back in Colorado from from being in Florida for the last two months. exciting to be home and exciting for what may come next. Who knows, maybe we’ll be back in Florida again soon. Maybe we’ll be here for a while. We just don’t know, the exciting, unknown,
excited unknown. Exactly. You know, it’s funny, as I was thinking back the last couple of days about Tracy and our talk with her. So many of the things that she said, resonated with me in terms of my journey and what it’s taken to get here. You know, she talked about really early on, she talked about the fact that many of us have multiple callings, or multiple purposes in our life. You know, I think today, we’re led to believe that Oh, you got to find your purpose, your why. And that when you find it, all of a sudden, everything’s gonna fall into place, and that’s the end of the story. But she reminded me that for some people, there are multiple wives, too. throughout your life, and that that’s okay. You know, she tied it back to being able to close out each one of those with grace, but just the recognition that you know what, yeah, I had a y once before. And it was okay. I, I accomplished that. And now I’m on to something different.
I wonder, you know, because this is something that I’m working on right now, right? Like, it’s I’ve kind of been revisiting my why that I’ve had for a while. And, you know, as wit continues to operate really, really well under the leadership team. It requires a lot less than my time and I’m working on Okay, what, you know, what can I do here to impact the world better? I mean, this podcast is is something that was born out of that. There’s going to be a lot of other cool things that come. But I wondered this. So I wonder if we actually think so. Let’s see how to articulate this. I wonder if we actually asked really good questions and we go deeper and deeper and deeper into like, okay, we had this business or we had this thing that we were doing and then we We kind of outgrew it or it ran its course. And we exited with grace. As Tracy said, I wonder if we actually took some time and went deeper? Is there one common or one? Why that runs through all of them? And then it’s these different experiences that we have are these different things that were a part of that, that runs the course of the why, for that moment, that that’s the best, most powerful way that we can use our talents and our skills at that time in our life and with that level of awareness and learning and experience. But really, the core why runs, runs deep and consistent.
Unknown Speaker 3:40
Yeah, actually, I think, you know, Tracy talked about that, in the sense of her being, you know, part of her Why is, is that deep connection to people, right, and then she talked about her various different, you know, careers or places she’s done that, you know, in her business now and then what’s to come and in the past and it was Kind of an evolution, but the common thread through all of those was that passion for people. And so I think you’re right. If you dig in deep enough, you may get to what that core level is. But even if you don’t have that awareness to begin with, I think just recognizing that, hey, right now, in today, this container is what she described as this container is. It allows me to pursue my passion or to pursue my y over here, even if you don’t make those connections. I think that’s really powerful. Because oftentimes we look at we’re like, oh, I’m a failure. I spent, you know, 25 years building a law practice. And now I want to walk away from it. It’s really easy to say what the hell Laura, you’re, I mean, that’s ridiculous. But if you accept that we met, it was a container for me to do what I was drawn to do with the time which has helped people and now I’ve outgrown that and I need to think about doing that in different ways.
Stephen Christopher 4:59
Yeah. Absolutely. And I think that that you bring up a great point or you bring up a couple great points. And Tracy did allude to a lot of these. But it’s around if you don’t know what your y is right now, because look, that’s fucking hard. It’s hard to figure that out. And it’s there’s a lot of pressure on it. I trust me, I know I’ve been working for it and, and looking for it for 10 or 15 years. And if we put too much pressure on ourselves, then it distracts us from being the best version of ourselves in that moment. So what I’ve learned is to be very accepting of wherever I am now, while I grow into that next thing, and actually, it ties into the exciting unknown. I didn’t even do that on purpose, but is, you know, being gentle with ourselves right now in that moment, and doing like you said, doing the best we can with what we have today. And moving that ball forward, each day, within whatever given kind of level of awareness. s are y that we currently have. Because I know I’ve gone through stages where I have lack of clarity. And I probably spent too much time thinking about it to where throughout the given days, I would actually take away from what I could have added more to other people. And I could have added more towards moving that ball forward just consistently each day to whatever destination it was going to be at. So I think it’s important that we, we don’t try to figure out exactly what it is we don’t take, you know, a year and go out into the desert, because I don’t think we can actually figure it out in a vacuum.
Unknown Speaker 6:40
Right? You need that? Oh, yeah, you need that interplay, you need the feedback, right? And if you’re willing to listen to that feedback that you get, you know, that’s part of what we’re doing even with our silly hundred day video challenge. Yeah, part of that for me is getting feedback of Okay, when I, for instance, talk about this stuff. It feels really good to me. But I don’t get any external validation, but it feels good. But if I talk about x, which I don’t really have as much passion for that, but I have an impact on other people. Okay, what does that tell me in terms of that? What’s that next step for me? No, right or wrong? It’s just feedback.
Stephen Christopher 7:21
Yeah. Yeah. You know, Tracy has done a great job over the years of being aware, you know, when she started as a nurse, and was like, Oh, nope, thought this is gonna be for me, but it is not. And and so she quickly, she did a really good job of doing the best she could in that moment. So she still gave it her all as she started to figure out what was that next thing? And she did. She’s done a really good job of always doing that and always listening to that awareness and that intuition quickly. And so I think that that’s an important takeaway is that when we start to become more aware, and we can start to hear that intuitive We, through proof of people like Tracy people like john BARROWMAN. There’s proof that that works out well in the end, and not holding on to this fear of you know, I don’t know if you experienced it at the law firm or not, but holding on to something for way too long. I mean, how many times that we’ve seen people hold on to stuff for way too long, and then they become miserable, just completely miserable. And they make everybody else around them miserable. Just because they’re not listening to that thing that is showing up for them.
Unknown Speaker 8:32
Yeah, no, I think that’s absolutely true. And I get be able to be in the moment I there’s some quote out there, but I can’t maybe you know, like, it doesn’t come to my tip of my tongue at the moment about, you know, being in the moment but anticipating the future or preparing for the future or something like that is you don’t always just want to be in the moment and not ever be looking towards what’s next. But you also can’t always be focused on what’s next. Where am I going and forget what’s happening now. Because there’s such value in that awareness of being in the moment. Yeah,
Stephen Christopher 9:04
yeah, yeah, completely. And you know, one of the other things that I love that Tracy said, which I didn’t write down the exact quote, but towards the end, she, she, she labeled something from or pulled something from Seth Godin about imposter syndrome. And I actually found a similar quote, this may or may not be the exact same one. But he says on his blog time spent fretting about our status as imposters his time away from dancing with our fear from leading and from doing work that matters. And I know for me, I’ve always had this imposter syndrome, right? It’s always when I do this or feel good enough to then do that. You know, so it’s okay when I have a business, when I grow that business to over a million dollars, then I can start talking about being a business owner and entrepreneur, like I feel qualified now to actually give advice. Well, when I hit that,
Unknown Speaker 9:58
that’s ridiculous. Like what does that have to do with Anything that number has nothing to do with it.
Stephen Christopher 10:02
I know and, you know, then it was then it was it just perpetuated well past a million. But um, now I’ve become much more okay with it and just, I don’t know, maybe it’s age, maybe it’s awareness, but just knowing that I actually do have massive value to add based on my experiences, and those may or may not land with everybody. And actually they won’t right the land with some people and not with others. But that’s okay. And if we, if we hold back from sharing that we hold back from helping somebody that we could have helped, just based out of our fear of maybe somebody else doesn’t like it just doesn’t matter if they don’t like it, it just means that it’s not their time to hear your message. They’re going to get their message from from somebody else at whatever point in time, they’re ready,
Unknown Speaker 10:47
something that resonates different with them, whether it’s the timing, it’s the story behind it, it’s the delivery, who knows what it is. But we all are unique, right? We all have our own uniqueness. My Loris, Laura isness can’t even say the word that resonates with other people. And we have the ability to impact people if we allow that to happen. But if we don’t, because we think we’re imposters, then all of a sudden we’re not sharing who why we’re here.
Stephen Christopher 11:16
Yep. Yeah. And one more piggyback on that, based on Tracy’s interview is something that’s helped me. I didn’t quite do it the same way as she mentioned it and as she’s building out the reimagined Goodbye, but if we start to have fear around doing something, even though we kind of like we have intuition we have calling towards something, but you know, we get held back by fear and ego and stuff. When an imposter syndrome. If we play it out to the end of our life, and say, What do I wish that I could say I did at that point. That’s something really amazing to follow because when I think about it that way, when I’m You know, afraid of doing something. And I go all the way out to the end of my life. And I say, How do I, how would I look back on this moment? And how would I desire or wish that I would have reacted to it? And a lot of times, it’s like, Yeah, do that thing. That’s definitely the right thing. All the signs point to that. Screw the fear, like, you will have wanted to do this. When you’re, you know, my age at 90 100, whatever, whatever, however long were to live
Unknown Speaker 12:30
wouldn’t have done that out of curiosity, would you have done that? Is it more likely than not that you will say, Oh, yeah, I’m going to do this, or is there a fair number of times where you look at that and you’re like, yeah, it at the end of my life on my deathbed. It’s not going to make that much of a difference.
Stephen Christopher 12:49
Yeah, there’s times when that happens. And that’s just kind of tells me like, Alright, this was just an idea that really, it was a cool idea, but maybe It’s leading me somewhere else. So I’ll just kind of table the idea and let it sit, I have a little folder or a note called ideation box. And so I just put ideas in there. And then I’ll go back and revisit them. But oftentimes, that idea that didn’t have a strong enough pull at that point in time will lead to something else. Or maybe in a conversation. I’m like, Oh, I had this great idea. Like, do you want it? And maybe I’ll give that idea away. So now, it’s, you know, looking back connecting the dots to everything. Now I can understand why it maybe showed up when I didn’t have clarity at the time.
Unknown Speaker 13:33
Yeah, that idea wasn’t that idea wasn’t yours. Right. It was an idea for someone else to help them on their journey or the next step or whatever it might have been. Yeah, absolutely. Cool stuff.
Stephen Christopher 13:44
Awesome. Well, all right, everybody, thank you so much for tuning into this episode of connect the dots where Laura and I chatted about our awesome interview with one of the most amazing epic humans on the planet, Tracy Ivanyshyn. Thanks so much for tuning in. And until next time, enjoy the exciting unknown.